In support of advisers
Friday, September 11th 2009, 10:38AM 4 Comments
- they pursue their financial interests ahead of their clients
- they are underqualified to perform their role
- they lack independence.
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On 14 September 2009 at 9:19 am Michael Donovan said:
A well written story Richard, and as a 'grandfather' I knew you personally when i was deeply involved in our profession over many past years.
As I have written previously, "LARGE" is most likely where a big part of the 'problem' originates.
With a LARGE investment planning business there comes an associated problem of corporate control.
This means that the LARGE numbers of advisers within a franchise (mostly "good honest people of strong integrity and ethics")are not actually ultimately acting as themselves, and are in fact 'controlled' by the heads of their relevant franchise group.
To help prove this point, we only need to consider the BIG TWO or THREE in NZ and we can quickly recognise them as open, dismal failures...and there has been much expose press on one of them in recent weeks which looks set to be building momentum rather than otherwise?
You suggested that the minority have tended to tarnish the overall profession, however, could it also be suggested that the 'minority' may be analysed as being mostly the "THREE?"
While it is naturally acceptable for any professional to make a good living (so as to be there in down times for their clients), I do clearly doubt the overall sincerity of a large number of advisers who i have associated with over the years.
So, my response is based mainly around your three main points.....
(1) The "wealth" created and enjoyed by advisers should have a more in-depth analysis, and should be assessed as to "what they are actually doing, to get paid for..!"
eg: To charge 1%pa off their investors money to supposedly "monitor" investment portfolios" which have clearly ended up losing large amounts of capital for the investors, and over protracted times, is surely not a qualification for an adviser's acceptable 'wealth'?
We all agree that no-one can pick the absolute bottom nor top af any market, however, i challenge that even the less-educated can at least pick "trends."
eg: the housing market TREND was too high a couple of years back, and is more acceptably low risk as a TREND in comparison. Be clear that while this means that the probability of huge capital losses have diminished, i am not suggesting that values are set to boom tomorrow.
It is merely to help demonstrate simple TREND-picking.
So, more on 'wealth' in regard to advisers...
Like all franchises who charge an annual 'monitoring' fee (like the one i belonged to at Money Managers till way back in 2001), I challenge that if you compared two portfolios, one 'monitored' and the other not, the difference in returns to relevant clients would be precisely 1%pa.
Therefore, would the best advice to those clients be to cancel their annual 'monitoring' fees, and enjoy a jump in returns per year (or at least a drop in losses) by precisely 1%pa with absolutely no additional risk???
(2) As a non-acedemic myself, i would naturally have to accept QBE (qualified by experience) alongside the MBA's.
However, while our profession in NZ is relatively 'young', should we not simply piggy-back on the more mature advisery professionals overseas who have lots more experience in 'weathering the downs' than many in NZ, and after all, most of the investments within portfolios have overseas content as a major part?
Of course, we can enjoy the 'perk' of being able to customise such overseas experience and add our own Kiwi ingenuity.
eg: Masterfunds were picked up on many years ago by Money Managers, and were at first rubbished by NZ competitors. However, while they were first developed overseas, they were very much modified and upgraded (with good help from your company too), and we now see most of the knockers enjoying their own versions of masterfunds.
There however, we need to again raise the question of 'TRUE monitoring'?
At least we can now say that virtually ALL NZ advisers have "experienced" a major downturn..!
(3) Lastly, (MPT). I do tend to agree that good old "diversification" can be construed wrongly as being the answer to lowering risk.
eg: diversifying across a portfolio of investment houses has resulted in nothing but poor results, and Blue Chip is one high-profile example.
Likewise, in recent years, someone who ommitted to pick "sharemarket trends".....same result.
The DOW is only back precisely to what it was way back in 9/11, so without any 'added-value' trading, a typical index investment would have produced static results at best..!
To summarise, I suggest that one of the major problems for investors has clearly been exposed during most of the last decade, and that has been in the form of a severe lack of 'reality' to the claimed "monitoring' (and subsequent adjustments) of portfolios.
Investors appear to have been coerced into entering into 'monitoring' contracts, however, the relative advisers have not actually honoured what they 'claimed' to be doing..!
And who is to blame? I suggest that the blame is not totally with the actual relevant advisers, it appears to be more with their bosses who have clearly built a nice annual cashflow from 'monitoring' fees, regardless of the markets.
The bosses have told their advisers that the annual 'monitoring' fees are justified, because the bosses claim that the 'monitoring' is done at head office.
Of course, it is well-known that a business value is helped by capitalising annual revenues?
As I have alluded to, all advisers are individuals.
However, they tend to be caught between the proverbial 'rock & a hard place' because if they abide by the franchise rules and rely on 'head office monitoring' they have to subsequently field the angry calls from investors who have been left in protracted falling markets (trends), and at the same time, they can realise that they if they applied their own logic (trend-picking) to adjust portfolios, they would be 'bucking their relevant franchise-bosses rules, and get into trouble or, even lose their franchise???
So, is all the 'wealth' created and enjoyed by advisers morally and ethically acceptable, and the questions need to include, "are you actually doing what you charge for?"
Support is always appreciated by advisers anywhere, and the support from your company was always well appreciated by myself back in the days when i had a 'link.'
I am pleased to notice that one of my gripes from the past appears to being gradually dealt with, and it is very relative to one of todays hot topics.....Kiwisaver.
In my school days, we were encouraged into the savings "habit" every Wednesday, when we saved our "bob" into our school-encouraged savings account.
May i suggest (if you are not already) that your company supports the savings attitudes of NZ'ers, and the best place to begin good habits is early in life.
If we all began our investments when we were at primary school (like they are taught to do overseas) then the bumps along the way would tend to have less negative effect.
Look forward to your additional help in that area.
Michael Donovan
On 18 September 2009 at 4:24 pm Rob Blackmore said:
I feel I need to reply to the comments from Messer’s Donovan, Visser and Sage regarding Richard James excellent article.
The honourable advisers have chosen to remain in the advisory organisation founded by Doug Somers-Edgar unlike those who have left.
The remaining advisers have chosen the honourable path of staying loyal to their clients and working alongside them to achieve the best outcome possible in what has been and will continue to be trying conditions – it appears some people are oblivious to the global financial events of the last 18 months.
The ongoing assistance, availability and advice being offered to the investors is often undertaken with far less remuneration paid than Mr Donovan suggests. I believe the majority of these honourable advisers will continue to have the courage, commitment, character and empathy needed to see the task of helping their clients through to the conclusion of these issues – they will not abandon their clients through lack of courage, commitment, character and self responsibility.
The sense of commitment to our clients is one of the reasons our organisation will survive – no matter how many untruths are written by others. Another reason it will survive and thrive along with our clients is the strategic partnership with NZ Funds and its people such as Richard James, it’s other Directors, Principals and their staff. They are people of integrity, character, honesty, ethics and are 150% committed to achieving the best outcomes for investors.
In my opinion these attributes are far more important than Honours and PhDs.
On 21 September 2009 at 10:56 am Michael Donovan said:
Yes Rob,attributes such as integrity, honesty, ethics and the like are all amongst those which can be much more down-to-earth and important than the relevant academic qualifications. And while the editor has chosen to delete a couple of comment replies which may be seen to have been more of a personal attack on the old MM, even though they did appear to contain some relevance to Richard's "genisis" topics, they did read somewhat as containing at least some associated content relating to the referred-to "attributes."
However, there are elements of all the comments posted which I feel should be noted, and noted in as much as can be done in a fly-on-the-wall perspective, because I assume,(and make the point) that it is not only those within the 'industry' (advisers and fund managers)who read these columns, but also the clients (investors) of both.
We all have our individual opinions, and it is great that we are allowed to expess them, and only a relatively small number of us seem to bother to make the time to add ours to such columns.
So, I am pleased that my response was left in because I did endeavour to respond to Richard's comments, and referred to each in my comments.
However, there is still a human element applicable to the comments made in these columns, and as always, the relevant editor is able to have the last say.
The last contributor (Rob)made comments applicable to advisers who have "chosen to stay" with their clients, and that is naturally honourable in these recent hard times.
However there is also another human element applicable here, and that in my opinion applies to the actual reasons behind any adviser "staying and sticking up for his/her particular company."
Sometimes, in any "industry" people cannot see the wood for the trees, and are somewhat at a disadvantage to others who can see things from a different perspective.
It can be quite sad that this disadvantage applies (to any "industry")and I can assure you that it is a psychological fact that unless you can truly see things from BOTH perspectives (both as a 'member of your industry, or your particular group in that industry)you simply remain at best only 50% qualified to comment..!
The point is that the likes of those who are part of a large group have most times naturally been dictated to by their bosses, and as i have seen, the bosses have generally told their group members that certain 'jobs' within the group are being done by their head offices.
One of those 'jobs' has been monitoring of investor-clients portfolios, and i still challenge that such mobitoring does NOT actually take place.
The downside of this is obviously that all of the investors suffer because it is their money in question.?
If an advisor is charging 1%pa to 'monitor' investment of say a total $40 million, then the advisor is getting $400,000 pa.
If the 'monitoring' is NOT actually being done, then where are the list of "attributes" applicable?
When the portfolios drop in value, the client suffers a (often quite large) capital loss, and at a time of life where such losses cannot be easily retrieved...!
Directly beside that, the adviser only loses a relatively small portion of annual revenue, eg; down say to 'only' $350,000pa.
That amount, i suggest is quite sufficient revenue on which to run an office in any of the larger groups nationwide.
However, the point i repeat is that are the advisers actually providing a TRUE monitoring service which they advertise and contract to offer.
What does not fall into acceptance in my opinion is that the advisers of especially the larger groups offer a response to their investors which is supposed to provide an acceptable answer....."it wasn't me who lost your money---it was the markets..!"
This is where my very point of TRUE MONITORING comes into the fray.
If you say you are going to do something (and charge handsomely for it) then surely you must be expected to do it..!
I have seen absolutely NO evidence that TRUE MONITORING is applied by advisers, and particularly those who are part of the larger groups or franchises, and it concerns me...on behalf of their investor clients.
What is the sense in just "being there"?
To me it is what is being provided when there by anyone in any industry, particularly when handsome fees are being applied to those who are the most important part of any industry....the client/s, and it surely must be ultimately up to those who remain on the coalface (even if bosses come and go)to make sure they honour what they charge for, so as to maintain that list of "attributes," and this applies to any "industry"...?
The difficulty remains in the fact that it is virtually impossible to denounce oneself...when you are still part of a large group who may be guilty of such actions and inactions?
The choice must be only two-part.
Charge and don't deliver
or..
charge and deliver (what you are charging for)?
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But let's not get distracted - our industry is on its knees at the present, with Regulators and (potentially self-serving) industry-hangers-on now deciding our fate. I openly congratulate anyone who is prepared to stand up for the advisory industry at this juncture, and strongly encourage more voices to step-up and support the good parts of the industry.
Whilst I don't want to detract from Richard's commentary, it would be useful for more advisers & advisory-related members to go public with their stories, rather than relying upon a [well-meaning] representative of the asset-gathering / manufacturing part of the industry.