When the adviser is the insurance
Des Morgan is well aware he’ll “take some flak” from the advice sector, but he insists his no-advice online life insurance model is filling a need – particularly for younger, internet savvy consumers.
Wednesday, September 28th 2011, 9:16PM 13 Comments
by Benn Bathgate
Morgan launched the Insurance4Me website back in April and is now offering customers who switch their policy Pinnacle Life cover at a 20% reduction on their current premiums.
"This is for a specific market, people who don't want advice and aren't going to go to a broker anyway, so I'm working on the basis that some insurance is better than none," he said.
"Some people don't want to see an adviser."
Morgan also said his approach to his target market meant he was not "trying to put them [advisers] down in any way, shape or form."
"If I want to attack I could pull out the commission thing and all that," he said.
TNP managing director Jeff Page said that while he preferred to see clients seek quality advisers, he was well aware of the growth in online insurance, a trend he predicted would continue.
"I think the number of people personally that want to go online and purchase will increase as time goes by, absolutely, but I still think there is always going to be a place for a good quality adviser that has a value proposition, and the value proposition is being able to give somebody completely unbiased advice."
Where Page and Morgan are in complete agreement is over the growing importance of the internet.
"You've got 80% of the population searching before they make a major decision, they go online to research or to compare, and if you are an adviser in the market place and you don't have a web presence, you're going to be at a disadvantage," he said.
Partners Life managing director Naomi Ballantyne also supported increased use of the internet for tasks such as filling in application forms and providing medical notes, but again backed the role of the adviser.
"You run the risk of the blind leading the blind, the client doesn't know what they don't know."
She was also wary of attempts to capture customers simply by offering low initial prices.
"Brokers have to produce illustrations that have 10-year projections, so you can get a feel for if the company are doing funny things with their pricing to make the first year look really good and then you know what, next year you're going to pay 20% more then everyone else in order to make up for it."
Another benefit to securing life cover through an adviser was highlighted by Fidelity Life chief executive Milton Jennings.
"They'll help fight for you when there's a claim, if you don't appeal through an adviser you've got to fight it for yourself, and advisers have very good relationships with the life companies they deal with," he said.
"They know the people within that organisation and they're able to talk to them and they've got a bit of leverage with them as well, so you lose a lot, and how long's your 20% going to last?"
Benn Bathgate is a business reporter for ASSET and Good Returns, email story ideas to benn@goodreturns.co.nz
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I would like to make the following points
1)A recent study in the United States showed that 1 in 4 adults prefer to purchase life insurance direct via the internet,mail or over the phone.
Not surprisingly, younger consumers showed the most interest in purchasing life insurance through the internet. Among those aged 25-44, a prime group for purchasing life insurance 31 percent said they would prefer to buy direct, with three in four citing the internet as their preferred means of direct buying.
There is no reason to believe that New Zealand is any different!
2)I have been in the life insurance industry for over 30 years in sales management and sales and I have yet to see a adviser influence whether a death claim will be paid or not.
Consumers now have the power of choice and increasingly that choice will be to put their money where they perceive real value. And if that means a new generation of customers who will go online and buy life insurance instead of it being sold to them, it will be good for the entire industry.
What I REALLY have a problem with is Mr. Morgan advocating taking over other peoples hard work and offering a discount via Pinnacle. So the Broker does all the work, calculates the sum assured and gets the proposal underwritten; the Insurer pays all the cost of underwriting that and then the Carpetbaggers in the guise of Messrs Morgan and Saul arrive and take it over by discounting!!!!! I have nothing but contempt for that behaviour, it adds NOTHING and STEALS other peoples hard work. Regardless, how long is the 20% discount guaranteed for? Contractually 12 months maximum.
Hopefully Insurance Companies will stop Internet Brokers from discounting first year premiums via on line applications as we all know why it is done; it happened to me the other day. I spent a lot of time over a couple of weeks collecting information, coming up with sums assured and recomendations, the client thanked me as they had "substantially" increased their levels of cover because of my input; but they found it cheaper on line because of the discount.
One final thing that got my back up was Mr. Morgan's slightly condescending response to point made by Milton Jennings in the article "I have been in the life insurance industry for over 30 years in sales management and sales and I have yet to see a (sic) adviser influence whether a death claim will be paid or not."
Well you are a poor adviser is all I can say; I can think of at least five occasions I have influenced the payment of a Life or Trauma payment (both available on line) and a far larger number of occasions when I have influenced the payment of Medical or Income Protection benefits and I know of many other Brokers who have done the same or more.
By all means offer Insurance online, but no first year discounting ( why do you need to discount??) and most certainly NO Pinnacle Life takeovers.
Are you trying to expand the market by selling to people born in the 1970's and '80's, or is it only your methods that are from then?
However, with the price of products increasing due to frequent churning, insurance is simply now not affordable for many people. So is it a surprise that many internet savvy customers will go for a more cost effective option?
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advisers can't be seen to be getting precious over this - the fish pond is way too big to worry about this line of marketing