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How to deal with irrational clients

Advisers who assume their clients will behave rationally when investing are at risk of losing their business if markets hit a rough patch, attendees at the IFA roadshow have been warned.

Friday, October 19th 2012, 7:18AM 7 Comments

by Niko Kloeten

Speaking at the event this week, Glen Wright and Jonathan Butler of NZ Funds Management discussed the increasingly prominent field of behavioural finance and how advisers can use its insights in their own businesses. 

One of the central tenets of behavioural finance is that, contrary to standard financial theory, humans are not rational investors.

Even geniuses can find themselves victims of humanity’s irrational instincts; Butler used the example of Sir Isaac Newton, who lost £20,000 (£2.4 million in present day terms) investing in the South Sea Company bubble in 1720, having earlier sold out at a considerable gain.

Butler said investors have a natural tendency to buy high and sell low, highlighted by figures from research firm Dalbar showing that between 1987 and 2006 the S&P 500 Index returned 11.8% per year but investors only achieved 4.3%.

Trying to convince clients to stay invested during market gyrations has proven over the years to be “about as effective as telling a 12-year-old girl not to scream at a Justin Bieber concert”, he said.

“We’re trying to overwhelm thousands of years of DNA in our brain; we’ve got basically the same brain we had as cavemen.  If we see something new we have to make the decision on whether we want to breed with it, eat it or run away.”

This fight-or-flight instinct means that fear is prioritised; Wright said that while traditional economic theory suggests investors view gains and losses equally, research has shown that investors dislike losses two to two-and-a-half times more than they like gains.

And he said financial advisers need to take this into account when designing portfolios, because enough of a loss can cause people to ditch their financial adviser and even quit investment markets altogether.

“We know clients can be invested for 10 years in shares and get a negative return; we just hope it’s not the decade coming up.  I think it’s almost cruel and unusual punishment to invest in shares without some way of mitigating the downside risk.”

Wright said advisers need to be particularly careful during the first few months with new clients, to ensure they don’t suffer any big losses during this early stage.

For instance, NZ Funds invests only 40% of client funds initially, with 30% invested in six months’ time and the remaining 30% invested at the one-year mark.

“If clients invest with you and have a bad start they are more likely to leave and if they have a good start they are more likely to stay,” he said.

“Most clients will come in and tell you they want as much growth as possible but they don’t want any losses; they’re just diametrically opposed.”

Niko Kloeten can be contacted at niko@goodreturns.co.nz

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On 19 October 2012 at 9:30 am w k said:
I only have one rule with irrational clients - dump them. Why not use the time dealing with these problematic people to prospect for new clients or spend more time with good existing clients? That's more productive, I can assure you.

The answers to a few key questions should be able to determine if the person is a prospect or suspect.

I think it will be more beneficial to conduct a talk on how to identify good clients rather than dealing with irrational clients. Just my thought.
On 19 October 2012 at 1:53 pm Amused said:
I fully agree w k. I don’t deal with investment products myself but like any industry there are people who you are probably better to avoid in the long run long than just focusing on getting a sale today.

One of the added benefits of having one's own business is that you can choose the people who you want to work with and personally I much prefer to act for clients that are grounded and "nice" people without sounding too airy fairy. Experience has taught me that such people have friends who are of a similar nature and hence I always get great referrals from them.

It's a natural progression then that in time such clients become real friends with the adviser and the "trust" aspect from both sides is cemented. At least that's the way I was always taught it should work when dealing with people.
On 19 October 2012 at 3:48 pm Kevin said:
Maybe we should have new headline - how to deal with an irrational FMA?
On 19 October 2012 at 3:58 pm w k said:
@amused. Thanks.

Here's the result of my formula, for the record: 30 years in the biz, not a single complaint, and 90% of biz comes from existing clients. Average persistency over the period, above 90%.

Would be great to know the record of doing all the modern profilings and keeping and coping with unpleasant clients.

Last of all, if your service truly comes from your heart, your clients can see it, and you don't have to worry one bit even you've made a mistake.
On 19 October 2012 at 9:31 pm Andrew said:
Should you also tell your clients that it is sub-optimal wading into markets than plunging? At any point in time don't equity markets have a higher expected return than cash? Client education is important but some times it is best to not engage
On 23 October 2012 at 10:55 am Mac said:
For those who sell investment products with false assumptions on future investment returns to rational people, when future expectations are not met, you end up creating irrational clients. You reap what you sow.
On 23 October 2012 at 11:49 am Amused said:
@ w k. Well said.

Our businesses and philosophies seem very much alike indeed. Isn't it a shame then that the bad apples in our industry have ended up seeing good advisers pay the price i.e. regulation.

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