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EDRs require long notice period

[UPDATED WITH FDR COMMENT] Concerns have been raised over the long notice period that advisers must give to change dispute providers.

Friday, December 20th 2013, 6:46AM 4 Comments

by Susan Edmunds

Both FSCL and ISO require 12 months’ notice before a financial services provider can transfer to a different scheme.

FDR requires three months' notice. 

The Banking Ombudsman scheme only caters for advisers who work in banks.

Adviser Kym Koloni was upset at how difficult it was to change to a new provider.

She is part of Newpark and decided to change from the ISO scheme to FSCL after a presentation. Her invoice from ISO said that if she did not pay, her membership would be terminated, so she told them that she had decided to change.

It was then she was told that she had to give a year’s notice. “It’s anti-competitive. FSCL said ‘pay [ISO’s] invoice and we’ll waive your first year of fees but if I want to swap, why can’t I?”

She said advisers had been inundated with paperwork when regulation took hold and many had not seen the EDRs’ fine print, which states what is required to end an agreement.

“It’s hard enough doing business with stuff like this where you can’t swap between schemes. FSCL said it was because you might get a big group like Newpark saying ‘you’ll get a better deal here’ and having everyone switch, but welcome to life in the business world. You can’t use that as an excuse.”

FSCL chief executive Susan Taylor said her organisation required 12 months’ notice because it was not-for-profit and budgets had to be done carefully at the beginning of each financial year based on the number of participants and the fee income received.

“We require some certainty on income, particularly when we reduce fees such as we did this financial year. Having said this, if an adviser has a genuine reason for leaving, for example is leaving the industry or has changed dealer group/employer and that dealer group/employer is with another scheme, we will not enforce the full 12 months’ notice period.”

FDR scheme manager Stuart Ayres said his scheme had considered requiring 12 months' notice but it had been decided that it was not fair. "It's anti-competitive and draconian."

Insurance and Savings Ombudsman Karen Stevens said the 12-month notice period was also to protect consumers. “[It] means if an adviser or other financial service provider suddenly ceases business or swaps ERD schemes, consumers can still make a complaint to the ISO Scheme. While most advisers will not have any complaints in this period, the new regulatory environment was introduced to protect consumers and this is what the 12-month notice period aims to do.”

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On 20 December 2013 at 9:31 am Stuart Ayres said:
Financial Dispute Resolution’s existing reserve scheme members and prospective approved scheme members can be assured that the approved scheme will NOT require 12 month’s notice of termination of membership for the very reasons expressed by Kym Koloni -it is anti- competitive practice.
12 months notice was initially considered to come into line with the other schemes, but subsequently discounted as unfair and anti-competitive. If we are doing a poor job then we deserve to lose our clients and will not hide behind such a draconian imposition on our clients.
As the author points out the reserve scheme requires only 3 month’s notice and this will be continued under the approved scheme. Stuart Ayres, Scheme Director, Financial Dispute Resolution
On 20 December 2013 at 1:04 pm Amused said:
Do a survey of advisers and 95% would likely have no idea of this "12 months’ notice" requirement to switch EDR schemes. It has been purposefully buried in the EDR terms and conditions and not disclosed to advisers up front (in most cases). I wonder why! Most savvy advisers would have simply refused to join their EDR scheme if they had known this “clause” upfront. We relied on our dealer groups to tell us about something important like this as they were the ones who were recommending the EDR scheme we should all belong to in the first place. As far as my group was concerned it was never brought to our members attention and I would love to know why? No good enough sorry.

You name me any another industry where participants who can voluntarily elect to join whatever scheme they like (and have to pay to belong) have to then give 12 months’ notice to switch schemes? It's scandalous or as Stuart Ayres rightly says “anti-competitive and draconian”

I became aware of the above earlier in the year when I decided to leave FSCL and joined the ISO scheme instead. What a breath of fresh air! Like quite a few advisers I elected to leave FSCL due to their previous comments on Good Returns saying advisers were not telling clients about the EDR process and essentially blaming us for their lack of complaints they were receiving. I wasn’t going to tolerate that kind of attitude to advisers from FSCL when I was paying them good money out of my business and had other schemes available to me.

Merry Christmas all!
On 22 December 2013 at 4:10 pm Bazza said:
Amused..have you tried to leave Telecom or Vodafone early? Or a power company maybe? Merry Xmas though because your comments through out the year have made me laugh that hardest.
On 23 December 2013 at 12:58 pm Amused said:
Hi Bazza, I can understand if an adviser had outstanding complaints against him or her and them not been allowed to leave their scheme then. It makes common sense that until the complaint is resolved they shouldn’t be able to switch. But when an adviser doesn't have any complaints outstanding this "12 month notice period" to signal intent to leave is a con whatever way you spin it. Advisers are allowed to pick whatever scheme we want to comply within the Act. As Stuart says if EDR schemes haven’t done a good job then they do deserve to lose their clients!

P.S. FSCL quoting the standard “not for profit” line as justification for this policy is laughable. Have a good look at their annual results published online and do the math on the number of staff and directors there and see what kind of salaries people are earning!

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